The 2024 Ford Mustang Mach-E Rally proves sideways is the best way

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Dr Gitlin

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Not a fan of any raised vehicle more than it needs to be for street use. Keep the center gravity as low as possible for maximum handling and maximum safety.

It's an electric car with a 1,477 lb (670 kg) battery pack between the axles. It has a lower center of gravity than any car you've ever driven, unless you drive an EV.
 
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thekevinmonster

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Not a fan of any raised vehicle more than it needs to be for street use. Keep the center gravity as low as possible for maximum handling and maximum safety.
I think there's a continuum. at one end, you have street cars that have been dangerously LOWERED for aesthetics, and either that messes up the suspension geometry or damages tires or makes the vehicle likely to hit things on the road surface...

and then pickup trucks and SUVs that have been dangerously RAISED vs what is safe for road driving, in anticipation of off-road rock crawling (and also because the owner thinks it's cool to do), which negatively raises the center of gravity and makes the vehicle more dangerous to pedestrians and other vehicles.

in the middle, you have 'if we give a street car more ground clearance, we will improve the ride with more suspension travel because our roads are not made of flat polished glass', and I wouldn't expect that to make the vehicle otherwise more dangerous to itself and others. I am making a hopeful guess that is what ends up actually happening in the case of this 'rally' Mach-E.
 
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Love Ford bringing out its WRC experience! Hyundai, are you taking notes? I would love to see rally editions for the Iconic 6 (shades of SAAB!) and Iconic 5; not just Type N.

Dakar does have quite a few heavy trucks dune busting. And there was Robby Gordon of NASCAR fame fielding a Hummer variant a while back for said races. Baja trucks anyone? So heavy weight rally vehicles are within the realm of possibility If not similar to poised beasts like the Ur Quattro or the Lancia Delta Integrale.
 
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Not a fan of any raised vehicle more than it needs to be for street use. Keep the center gravity as low as possible for maximum handling and maximum safety.
Every dirt road in the world says 'bah' to your pavement-centric view.

There are a lot of dirt roads.
 
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Russ M.

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I'm assuming Ford still hasn't put a heat pump in this thing for folks who live in areas that get really cold in the winter. Its the one thing that crossed ford off my list as heating the battery in winter without a heat pump is a serious power drain.
Not that I'm aware of. I suspect it's unlikely to get a heat pump until it's on a dedicated EV platform and doesn't have the "advantages" of sharing a platform with ICE vehicles that don't have a heat pump. Cost/BOM optimization.
 
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Not that I'm aware of. I suspect it's unlikely to get a heat pump until it's on a dedicated EV platform and doesn't have the "advantages" of sharing a platform with ICE vehicles that don't have a heat pump. Cost/BOM optimization.

The 23.5 all came with an upgraded heater. Not a heat pump. I think that carries over to the 24.
 
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Luke90

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The infotainment system has a calculator app? Maybe some edition needed.
Addition isn't just a mathematical operation, and the article's use of it is perfectly valid.

addition
noun
1. the action or process of adding something to something else.
"the hotel has been extended with the addition of more rooms"
2. something that has been added to something else

And if they had made an error, it would be "editing" that was needed, "edition" makes no sense in this context.
 
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Didn't read the 150 pages but I assume that value includes giant pickup trucks that people are buying?

Yes, though that doesn't matter. The majority of American vehicles are CUVs and SUVs, just like the Mach-E. The Mach-E is on the heavier side, but only by 100-200 lbs. Thus, the outrage at this being "heavy" is silly, because it's not much heavier than the cars it's meant to replace.
 
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Dr Gitlin

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You missed it, didn’t you? I think you’re missing the generalized statement directed at a certain crowd that loves to raise their physical compensation vehicles (trucks) to levels that blind everyone around them to road conditions. Safety.

And that applies to a car that comes from the factory with a one-inch lift how, exactly? Other than pearl-clutching, that is.
 
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I think there's a continuum. at one end, you have street cars that have been dangerously LOWERED for aesthetics, and either that messes up the suspension geometry or damages tires or makes the vehicle likely to hit things on the road surface...

and then pickup trucks and SUVs that have been dangerously RAISED vs what is safe for road driving, in anticipation of off-road rock crawling (and also because the owner thinks it's cool to do), which negatively raises the center of gravity and makes the vehicle more dangerous to pedestrians and other vehicles.

in the middle, you have 'if we give a street car more ground clearance, we will improve the ride with more suspension travel because our roads are not made of flat polished glass', and I wouldn't expect that to make the vehicle otherwise more dangerous to itself and others. I am making a hopeful guess that is what ends up actually happening in the case of this 'rally' Mach-E.
Whoa there. There’s a difference between a one to maybe 1.5 lowering for handling purposes, and the other end, where they lift vehicles a full 12 inches or more. There’s simply no comparison in the degradation to handling and road manners. One side is methodical, the other side is making a statement, usually one of manliness (lack of).
 
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A revised battery pack offers 265 miles (426 km) of range in the Rally, down slightly from the GT's 280 miles (451 km), which is itself a 40-mile (64 km) penalty from the maximum range of 320 miles (515 km)
Is the battery actually smaller than either of those other trims or is that just efficiency differences? Battery size effects not just range, but charge times and cost so listing out any differences can be helpful.
 
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Whoa there. There’s a difference between a one to maybe 1.5 lowering for handling purposes, and the other end, where they lift vehicles a full 12 inches or more. There’s simply no comparison in the degradation to handling and road manners. One side is methodical, the other side is making a statement, usually one of manliness (lack of).
No, I absolutely see street cars that have dangerously low ground clearance, camber, and stretched tires which only exist to make a statement.
 
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sword_9mm

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Whoa there. There’s a difference between a one to maybe 1.5 lowering for handling purposes, and the other end, where they lift vehicles a full 12 inches or more. There’s simply no comparison in the degradation to handling and road manners. One side is methodical, the other side is making a statement, usually one of manliness (lack of).

Wait what?

You've never seen cars that are basically ground bound and herky-jerkin' over speed humps?

That ain't an inch for handling. It's a complete slam.

A 1" lift isn't hurting anything nor is a 1" drop.
 
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I love the wheels. LOVE. Everything else I could take or leave, same as the regular Mach E.

Still, at least it's better than buying a Tesla, right now.

After you mentioned the styling is making me wonder if the hubcaps on my first car (1991 Buick Lesabre) were some kind of drag coefficient marvel, unbeknownst to me....

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I've also wondered why more ICE vehicles don't employ more of the additional things EVs do to eek out extra mileage, such as low rolling resistance tires, aerodynamic hubcaps, etc..
 
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Every dirt road in the world says 'bah' to your pavement-centric view.

There are a lot of dirt roads.
I live in a city of 80k people that has dirt roads all over the place, and I regularly use a river crossing (10 minutes down the road from me) in order to get around (and the last time I used it, it actually had water flowing in it!).

And I tool around on forestry trails all the time as well.
 
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So this car doesn’t have airco, only resistive heating? So it sucks in hot and cold weather?
Every car sold in America has air conditioning. (Not counting things that blur the lines between cars and ATVs or e-bikes or whatever.)

https://www.kbb.com/car-news/you-can-no-longer-buy-a-new-car-without-air-conditioning/

But some EVs only use the compressor for AC, while adding a resistive element for heating, which is bad in the winter. EDIT: Well, I'm sure it's fine for keeping you warm in the winter, but it's bad for efficiency and range.
 
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