The refreshed 2024 Hyundai Elantra N remains a darn good enthusiast car
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I searched high and low last year for an Elantra N to test drive, but couldn’t find a single one within several hundred miles of my home in CT. I ended up going with a GRC, which I love to bits and have zero regrets over. Still, this has me curious. Wish I could find one to have a look at.
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...good writing in a good review. Thanks. I'm going to take a look at one of these.
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Sounds fun. Was running errands with a friend last night who had an older civic manual and man it made just running to the hardware store a blast.
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If Hyundai wasn't hamstrung by their absolutely terrible Dealership partners in the US, they would probably be selling like crazy. Hyundai's are some of the best cars on the road in the US today.
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Love the idea of these, and the performance for money, but to my eye they are just so ugly. I've seen a bunch in person on the road and at the track over the last couple of years and I just can't get over it, especially the garish red bits.
Please do carry on enjoying yours if you've bought one!
Please do carry on enjoying yours if you've bought one!
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Why would you need a grab handle in the middle of the car on the passenger side?
Hyundai is not known for the quality of its manual transmissions. The one in our old 03 Elantra was garbage.
Nothing against the car, but I’d never buy another Hyundai after the shady as fuck dealer experience. All dealers suck, but this was a whole nother level.
Hyundai is not known for the quality of its manual transmissions. The one in our old 03 Elantra was garbage.
Nothing against the car, but I’d never buy another Hyundai after the shady as fuck dealer experience. All dealers suck, but this was a whole nother level.
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2003 was literally over a generation ago. People born then can drink this year
Happy Saturday
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This will be on the short list when I get my next fun car in 2025.
We need to replace my wife's vehicle with a hybrid that we can take on road trips before I can even consider my car though. Her current vehicle lacks features that i like to have on 700+ mile road trips, adaptive cruise, lane departure warning, etc.
I have not researched how the resale of some of the korean sport compacts compare to wrx which has amazing resale. That matters as much to me as performance.
We need to replace my wife's vehicle with a hybrid that we can take on road trips before I can even consider my car though. Her current vehicle lacks features that i like to have on 700+ mile road trips, adaptive cruise, lane departure warning, etc.
I have not researched how the resale of some of the korean sport compacts compare to wrx which has amazing resale. That matters as much to me as performance.
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Some of the comments about Hyundai dealerships and Hyundai manual transmissions do not match my experience. Our local dealership was great and the warranties by Hyundai are the best. My wife and I have had a Pony (not sold in the States), Elantra GT, Sonata, Tiburon, Genesis Coupe, and Veloster Turbo. All had manual transmissions. We test drove various cars to compare when shopping for cars and we found that the Hyundai models were equal to or better than the competition at the time. The only car transmission that my wife wound up preferring is our Mustang GT. I still miss my Veloster Turbo. That was a fun car and it sounds as if the Elantra N might be comparable. To be really useful, though, one needs a hatch version.
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Thanks. I turn 40 in a few months, my doctor just told me the arthritis in my wrist is “normal for my age”, and now your comment.2003 was literally over a generation ago. People born then can drink this year
Happy Saturday
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If it will make anyone feel better, some Hyundai engines still seem to blow up randomly, so it's not that long ago!2003 was literally over a generation ago. People born then can drink this year
Happy Saturday
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If we're comparing anecdata, my 2010 i30 had a great transmission.
My only complaint was it should have been six-speed instead of five.
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I’m 47, I box for exercise, lift weights, and get cardio speed walking the dogs every day a couple miles.Thanks. I turn 40 in a few months, my doctor just told me the arthritis in my wrist is “normal for my age”, and now your comment.
Just pulled a back muscle sneezing.
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I didn't know the history, but according to Car & Driver, there was the $25K "N Line" and the more expensive N. The N Line competed with the Civic Si and offered about 200 HP. The N competes with the more expensive Civic Type R, and has a much higher output engine.
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It gets about the mileage of a jeep wrangler, which sold 150000 in the US last year. They sold 5000 of these Hyundais in the US. That's likely because of production numbers, but it's a pretty niche car. I understand american car culture. On one hand it's cool. But as a person who wants a car to be quiet, efficient, and reliable it's not my thing. So many (young men) people make their daily drivers into deafening clown shows.
I like the blue one
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I flew 450 miles to get one in Pennsylvania. The next closest was North Carolina. I already owned a 2019 Elantra GT N-Line hatchback (I’d have bought the i30N, its global N variant, in a heartbeat if available in NA) and when I saw the facelift I knew it was what I wanted.
I’ve driven her 1,500 miles and to quote Warrant (and date myself) “Put a smile on your face, ten miles wide”. Incredible handling and grip (even when wet if you make good tire choices and the eLSD is very good), powerful acceleration, the factory exhaust tune gets every car guy excited, and the telematics are first rate. Braking is also excellent, and this car is a geek’s dream in that everything can be tweaked and adjusted, and everything reported in realtime (like the G’s you’re pulling or your lap time). I have the DCT, and while I know people pan not having the stick, it’s incredibly good in automatic or manual mode, and I say that having owned a 1994 Acura Integra GS-R.
The mention of the telescopic steering wheel is dead on; I’m 6’4”, 250lbs, long legs and arms. Plenty of legroom, but finding a position would be greatly improved if I could get another 2-3” from the steering wheel.
The comments here on dealerships aren’t wrong; many US Hyundai dealerships are mediocre at best (though a shout-out to Washington Hyundai in PA who provided an excellent buying experience with zero hassles). This is the best, most fun car on a budget you can buy.
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Hyundai powertrains actually got worse in the 2010s with the Theta II. A lot of the worst problems also seem to be with their NA made vehicles, the ones imported from Ulsan are apparently much higher quality.
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That’s correct.
The Veloster Turbo (now discontinued) the Elantra GT N-Line (the i30 N-Line everywhere but North America, and no longer sold here) and the Elantra N-Line all use a 1.6L turbo with 200hp and 196lb-ft of torque, while still taking regular gasoline. Most of these use a 7spd dry-clutch DCT, though the Veloster and Elantra GT were available with stick.
In addition to my Elantra N, i own an Elantra GT N-Line. It’s “zippy” and handles very well, the DCT shifts reasonably, and it gets reasonable but not groundbreaking gas mileage. Sadly, Hyundai never marketed it, so it has a fairly small (though dedicated) following. Think of it as Asia’s answer to the GTI; it was only available in 2019-20 (though the 2018 Elantra GT Sport was similar).
The N adds adjustable dampers, limited-slip differential, tuned exhaust, the 8spd wet-clutch DCT, launch mode, larger wheels. The shifting and cornering are a noticeable improvement and the 76hp and 100lb-ft of torque increase due to the 2.0T engine are nothing to sneeze at, but it takes premium and gets lower mileage. I look at the GT as semi-luxury-sport (it has heated/ventilated leather buckets, power driver’s seat and some other items) and the N as pure sport. The GT N-Line however is very practical fun.
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Welcome to the Mitten State, and see above. Sadly it isn’t going to happen in NA.
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I drive a 2022 Civic Si, which has a lower MSRP, but you have a hard time finding it for less than the Elantra N. The Civic Type R is a lot more of a performance car, but you pay a lot more for it as in $50k. Can't speak for resale value, but I am sure the Honda holds up better. Next year almost all Civics will be hybrids with as much power and more torque than my Si, but I doubt they will have a manual.
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Like the new nose on this car. I guess folks tired of the catfish look. Still prefer my '22 Civic Si which has a lot less power, but I get much better fuel economy. I have averaged 40 MPG during the 18 months and 28,000 miles I've owned it. On another styling note, not a fan of the passenger side, center console strut which kind of interferes with any shenanigans by the front passenger. ;-)
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When you reach my age never read an X-ray report, because if they incidentally got a joint in the frame the somewhat advanced degree of arthritis will be noted, despite it being a lung or stomach, or other assorted viscera, X-ray. I do not need to be told, I take my daily Vitamin N tablet religiously (Naprosyn).Thanks. I turn 40 in a few months, my doctor just told me the arthritis in my wrist is “normal for my age”, and now your comment.
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The Elantra N-Line would be similar competition there. Only has the 7spd DCT I believe, but similar horsepower and torque specs, and its 1.6T gets better mileage and takes regular.
The N is more comparable to the Civic Type R. The CTR is probably a bit better stick-shift, and will have better (at least it does for now) resale value; its interior is a notch up too. On the other hand, good luck finding it without paying $10,000 more than the Elantra N (its upscale sibling, the Integra Type S is even more though it’s really nice), and I’d put money into n the Elantra having better electronics. I like both cars, and both have their strengths. The Si is also a good vehicle.
(Edit: Corrected N to N-Line, first sentence, and spelling due to mobile post)
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3313 lb for the 8spd DCT version and if I remember right, about 3195 for the 6spd stick.
EDIT: because typing with phone is hard for large thumbs.
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That's the Veloster N, which unfortunately ended its model run in '22. I nabbed a 6 speed last year lightly used and I absolutely love it.
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At 29000 pounds, that transmission should have some solid reliability.
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I just found out my neighbor is a Hyundai salesperson. When I asked a few days ago, she said the Ioniq 5 N is going for $20k over MSRP.
I'd guess this will also have a hefty markup, at least $10k.
I'd guess this will also have a hefty markup, at least $10k.
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Hyundai/Kia are pretty much the Toyota of the 80's and 90's but without the legendary reliability. But they've made some great strides in that area since the early 2000's.
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I paid slightly above MSRP for mine. There’s a complete ElantraN subreddit you can do research with.
Most N owners are rejecting any dealer going beyond fair markup. If it’s $37k or higher for the DCT model, you should move on. But it’s relatively easy to contact dealers online and get a price quote these days, and word spreads quickly if a dealer is shifty.
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Dealer specs are pretty easy to look up using the Google.
My original figure was the DCT from Car & Driver’s listed specs. 110lb difference isn’t that much.
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3313 lb for the 8spd DCT version and if I remember right, about 33195 for the 6spd stick.
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